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Newer page: version 23 Last edited on Sunday, December 12, 2004 4:54:48 pm by CraigBox
Older page: version 22 Last edited on Friday, May 28, 2004 11:13:06 am by DrewBroadley Revert
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-[Mozilla] is not only a great WebBrowser , it is also a great MailClient . Trust me on that one
+Mozilla Mail is the [Mozilla] suite's MailClient and NewsReader, originally born from [Netscape]. With the 2004 spinning off of the browser component into MozillaFirefox , a similar project called MozillaThunderbird was started, and this went gone 1 .0 in November 2004. Much of the information for Mozilla Mail and Thunderbird is interchangable
  
-- MatthiasDallmeier  
  
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-I have found MozillaMail to be a pathetically buggy MailClient especially when using multiple IMAP accounts on different servers. I would recommend [PINE]  
-- MattBrown  
  
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+!IMAP namespaces  
  
-I have found MozillaMail to be a perfectly stable MailClient, even when using multiple IMAP accounts on different servers. I have also been using it longer than MattBrown for this purpose. The only times I have had any issues with MozillaMail is when trying to force its folder hierarchy to show subfolders of INBOX to be at the same level. Personally I don't care about this, but MattBrown seems to think that a MailClient is only useful if it shows subfolders of INBOX at the same level as INBOX
+The only times I have had any issues with MozillaMail is when trying to force its folder hierarchy to show subfolders of INBOX to be at the same level. 
  
-Note that this is arguably a bug in MozillaMail (not supporting the NAMESPACE extension to IMAP4 correctly), however in itself it is not a fatal bug. Some IMAP servers (recent versions of [Cyrus] for example) can do server-side namespace alteration, which MattBrown is used to
+Note that this is arguably a bug in MozillaMail (not supporting the NAMESPACE extension to IMAP4 correctly), however in itself it is not a fatal bug. Some IMAP servers (recent versions of [Cyrus] for example) can do server-side namespace alteration. 
  
-I would like to point out to MattBrown that 'pathetically buggy' is fairly strong language to describe a MailClient that works 100% fine for other people, who have __only__ had issues with it when trying to resolve a __purely__ cosmetic issue.  
  
-- DanielLawson  
+! Problems with Mail  
  
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+;Crashing when the compose button is clicked : Could be related to incorrect XUL. Try removing your .mozilla directory ( you did do this when you upgraded last, like the upgrade notes in Mozilla tell you to, right?) and reloading.  
+; Refusing to talk to the IMAP server until MozillaMail is shutdown and restarted : I've seen the second problem you describe, when I am using an IMAP server off a dynamic IP: eg my server at home. If it changes IP, mozilla sometimes requires a restart. If you are using [SSL], Mozilla always requires a restart. This isn't neccesarily a mozilla problem. It could perhaps handle it better, however dynamic IPs are not designed for running services off them. If you want a reliable mail server, get a static IP or host your mail on a machine with a static IP.  
  
-While it is true that I have had issues with MozillaMail and CourierImap displaying incorrect folder hierarchies my problems with MozillaMail have extended well beyond this. The following problems are some of the worst I have experienced with Mozilla and "standard" IMAP configurations. And no I don't run the latest beta versions.  
-* Crashing when the compose button is clicked  
-* Refusing to talk to the IMAP server until MozillaMail is shutdown and restarted.  
+! Disabling DNS caching  
  
-- MattBrown  
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-I've seen the second problem you describe, when I am using an IMAP server off a dynamic IP: eg my server at home. If it changes IP, mozilla sometimes requires a restart. If you are using SSL, mozilla always requires a restart. This isn't neccesarily a mozilla problem. It could perhaps handle it better, however dynamic IPs are not designed for running services off them. If you want a reliable mail server, get a static IP or host your mail on a machine with a static IP.  
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-The former one does look like a bug, however I've seen issues like it relating to incorrect XUL. Try removing your .mozilla directory ( you did do this when you upgraded last, like the upgrade notes in Mozilla tell you to, right?) and reloading.  
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-- DanielLawson  
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-Update:  
- You can disable mozilla 's dns caching with the following prefs: 
+You can disable Mozilla 's dns caching with the following prefs: 
  
  user_pref("network.dnsCacheExpiration", 0); 
  user_pref("network.dnsCacheEntries", 0); 
  
-- DrewBroadley  
+!Saving passwords  
  
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-I used MozillaMail on my LAN at home and still had problems, so I don't believe that dynamic IP's are the problem.  
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-I have removed my .mozilla directory countless times due to being unable to start mozilla, this only adds to my frustrations with MozillaMail.  
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--MattBrown  
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- If mozilla mail refuses to ask if you want your password remembered, make sure you don't have the line 
+If Mozilla Mail refuses to ask if you want your password remembered, make sure you don't have the line 
  user_pref("signon.rememberSignons", false); 
 in your mozilla prefs.js file! 
  
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 !Annoying things about MozillaMail 
  
 * It feels slow, even on a fast machine. This seems to be due to XUL, and can't be helped. Opening a new window isn't as instantaneous as you would expect on flash hardware. Moving another window around on top of moz mail results in noticable redraws. Rendering non-latin characters also seems to slow down moz quite a bit. 
 * Need to be root to install EnigMail for [GPG] support. I managed to work around this my making my own moz tree and symlinking almost everything back to the original, but that's a clumsy workaround. 
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 * Integration in !SeaMonkey means that if your browser hangs, all your mail windows do too. MozillaThunderbird and MozillaFirefox should prevent this. 
 * If the headers are too wide for the message display window (eg a long name/email address, or attachment filename), mozilla resizes all the internal widgets, making the folder names list thinner. Not only is the jiggling annoying as it sizes and resizes multiple times, it makes it hard to move messages to folders if the folder list is only a few pixels wide. 
 * If you start Compacting Folders and then minimise moz mail, it uniconifies itself when it finishes compacting. 
 * As of 1.5, Ctrl-K now brings up a spell checker instead of deleting to the end of the line, as many unix hackers would expect (and how it used to!). Of course, the Help is out-of-date and doesn't mention this, nor how to set you own or disable the spell check. 
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-Ive used Moz Mail under Sea Monkey and Thunderbird, seem's OK (I mean, it dosn't crash like KMail does) -- ReneBartosh  
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- A simple shell script to start MozillaMail as a standalone: 
+! A simple shell script to start MozillaMail as a standalone: 
  
  #!/bin/sh 
  MOZILLA=/usr/X11R6/bin/mozilla 
  $MOZILLA -remote "xfeDoCommand (openInbox)" || $MOZILLA -mail & 
  
-Thanks to __mjl__  
-%%%  
--DrewBroadley  
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-To disable DNS caching:  
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-Place the following in your prefs:  
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- user_pref("network .dnsCacheExpiration", );  
- user_pref("network.dnsCacheEntries", );  
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-- DrewBroadley  
+Thanks to MatthewLuckie