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You said Neither Mozilla nor OpenOffice.org use GTK+ 00 do they just draw widgets using GTK2 themes then? OO.o isn't finished in it's GTK2'd state, but i was pretty sure that Mozilla used GTK2 on linux quite happily if desired.

IMHO that's the point... if desired. Mozilla can be compiled for GTK, as it can be compiled Qt, but it was developed using XUL and later ported to these toolkits. XUL is still the default, so most people using ]Mozilla] defintely aren't using mozilla-gtk (or qt-mozilla for that matter), so I think mentioning it on GimpToolKit gives people the wrong impression. It's not like the Mozilla developers deliberately chose GTK as their ToolKit of choice as It's the ToolKit of choice for most any serious application on Linux, such as Mozilla,... seems to imply. I mean, even tough there is gvim you wouldn't say: GTK is the ToolKit of choice for most any serious application on Linux, such as Vim. would you? I may be technically correct but gives a wrong impression. --MarkusMaier

i thought a lot of distros thesedays come with Moz compiled against GTK, i've never come accross it bound to Qt though, however it's important to note that Mozilla still uses XUL, it's a framework, not just a widget toolkit, otherwise all XUL apps would cease to work with MozillaGTK2. GTK became the toolkit of choice for mozilla on linux when they decided to ditch motif. --PhilHarper - i have a feeling this isn't really worth discussing much further ;)

Also, Cuckoo? being a Qt-porting effort for OOo doesn't make much sense if it doesn't use GTK2... --AristotlePagaltzis

i don't think OOo already uses either, the two projects are working to use native widgets from each toolkit, i think there's a framework for it. --PhilHarper

I think OpenOffice.org uses its own ToolKit (at least it used to), but I might be wrong. I'm still a newbie and was just trying to BeBold?. ;-) --MarkusMaier

OO.o does use it's own toolkit, and the only platform it emulates reasonably well is win32, so the native widget project is helpful, however, it could have nasty side effects for GNOME and KDE office.